So, who called it? [ June 2nd ]. High five!

I keep meaning to finish and post this entry, even partially done, but every time I open up the computer I fall asleep and I figure I should probably do that before writing… right?

I am having a very weird time with this whole, “I just had a baby” thing. It’s not sinking in. Is this my little dark-haired newborn sitting in my arms nursing? I mean, it has to be… but truly? How did this happen? Where did she come from? Wow.
For her first day and a half she barely nursed at all and seemed far more interested in quietly interacting with the world around her. She went back and forth between long quiet-alert periods (2-3 hours at a time) and sleeping in huge chunks. When she did fuss for a suckle, she was a lazy latcher and I’ve really had to work at her to get her to get a good mouthful of breast; she seemed content just to sort of lick at me and fall back to sleep. She also spent that time passing buckets upon buckets of meconium. She is a little shit machine. I swear to god she’s going to be a pound lighter tomorrow.

Today she’s nursed a metric tonne, but I notice she clicks a lot and swallows a ton of air. No matter how I latch her she can’t seem to get on very deep, so my nipples are getting kind of sore. She doesn’t seem to be getting her tongue all the way over her bottom gum either, and what I can see looks heart-shaped: so she’s got a little tongue tie. I called my LLLeader earlier to get some tips. I may be a breastfeeding counsellor, but it’s next to impossible to counsel yourself.

A few queries answered:
1. “Is your hyperemesis gravardium gone?”
YES! NO MORE HG! OMFG! The relief wasn’t quite instant, but within a few hours the difference was night and day. I was so accustomed to the sensation of being on the edge of vomiting all the time that I barely even noticed it was there until it was just… gone. GONE! Unfortunately I’ve been cautious around food for so long that it’s hard to accept that I’ll be okay if I eat when I’m hungry. Some hours after birth I sent Curtis out to get me a disgustingly greasy and oversized bacon cheeseburger from a local drive-in: a food I’ve been craving so, so, so bad but am never able to eat due to the nausea. While he was gone I actually sat waiting at home with butterflies in my stomach from the idea that I’ll be able to eat it without consequence.
It was the most beautiful meal in the world. I ate the entire thing in five minutes. AND THEN DESSERT. And when I didn’t immediately start projectile vomiting, I had to fight back tears.

Last night we walked to the store (just a few blocks, don’t worry) to pick up some cheddar cheese for dinner this evening and as we passed the cheese aisle I looked up and saw brie sitting there. I haven’t been able to eat dairy in weeks due to the nausea. Curtis saw me staring at it and grabbed my shoulders, “No, no… this way,” he says. He leads me to the specialty cheese section and waves his hand, “This is what you want.”
I teared up. “I can’t make my mind up…”
Without missing a beat he sang, “… which cheese will you taaaaake?”
I grabbed some double cream brie and applewood smoked gouda, and then we went to the liquor store and grabbed some cider, came home and sat in bed watching anime with baby sleeping between us… EATING AMAZING FOOD AND HAVING AMAZING DRINK. I just… I don’t even have words for this kind of joy.

2. “How do you pronounce Zephyra? / What’s her middle name?”
Zephyra is pronounced “zeff-ear-ah”, but bring the sounds closer together. It’s the feminine form of Zephyrus, God of the west wind. Her middle name is Adia, [ like the song ]. Together it’s “Gift of the west wind”. The (first) name came to both of us from pretty early on and we sort of played with it for a while. Then during early labour my doula was commenting on the gusting winds and says, “It’s a spring Zephyr coming in!” and Curtis I both exchanged this look. Of course, just as with Tempest, the gusting winds stopped as soon as she was born and changed to gorgeous sunshine. It’s been beautiful and warm ever since. Everyone keeps commenting that she stopped the windstorms, even before they knew her name. It’s kind of awesome.

3. “Birth story?”
I haven’t even started her birth story yet, but it’s pretty short so it’s not like I have a lot to write out. Active labour was 1.5-2 hours long and I got to 7cm dilated before it began. So my entire labour..? Transition, and then six pushes. Though I only felt the urge to push in the last 2-3: her bag was intact and very cushiony until she crowned so it dulled the pushing reflex. I really did not feel it at all until I accidentally broke the caul by sitting on it.
There’s really only one way you can describe a labour like that, “Holy. Fucking. Shit.” Like I said: rollercoaster. It felt like it went way too fast and was completely out of control for the last 30-45 minutes; I’ve never had a labour that difficult.

That said I feel fantastic. Even though the labour was hard, once I recovered physically (which took about 45 minutes) I felt just… amazing. I feel so much better. SO MUCH BETTER. Oh my god. I’m so glad I’m not pregnant anymore. I want to dance. Dance the happy homebirth dance! Speaking of which: holy crap I just had my second waterbirth, and my second VBAC! Damn am I ever happy about that. Birth. BIIIIRTH! BIRTH ROCKS! That was really hard, but NATURAL BIRTH STILL ROCKS.

4. “How did your back/nerves/pain hold up?”
Ow, my spine. That hurt. A lot. The nerve pain didn’t bother me a single bit during labour or birth, thank the fucking fates for that, but my spine sure did. It was hard. Really, really, really hard and it hurt a fuckofalot more than any other labour and birth experience I’ve had thus far, with 90% of the pain focused in my fusions. I think the only reasons I didn’t beg and plead for an epidural was because a/ it went too fast, and b/ I was in so much pain I was afraid to stand up and get in the car to go to the hospital and face EVEN MORE PAIN on the way… but damned if it didn’t cross my mind, and I’ve never wanted one before. I’m very glad I had the birthing pool set up, because I cannot imagine how much worse it would have felt without the water taking pressure off my back. I screamed so loud through the last half hour that my voice is still recovering. Spinal fusions can fucking die.
You sure you want to see the video..? It’s loud.

4. “Is she as active on the outside?”
She didn’t stop until the moment of birth. Literally, did not stop moving the entire time I was labouring with her. Even while crowning. Jill said she’s never seen a baby do that in the birth canal. When she checked me at fully dilated and tried to help her descend past the bag without breaking it, she could feel her head spinning in circles like she was watching a ball fly around a room.
PS. The reason the midwife was doing that is because I’d asked her to: the bag was impeding her coming through to some extent because it was SO blown up. It didn’t really “prevent” as much as it just, “slowed down”. I stayed at complete for like 25 minutes with back-to-back pushing contractions with no urge as a result of that, but I was very resistant to the idea of having my water broken artificially unless it got way too much for me to handle (don’t get me wrong: I was this close to asking for it).

5. “Did Tempest and Xan get to see?”
Yes! The end went so fast we all sort of forgot to grab them, but thank god the backup midwife Julia said, “Do you want me to get the kids up?” and ran back to pull them out of bed. Xan saw more than Tempest did only because Tempest is like a 16 year old when it comes to waking up. She had to be slung over MJ’s shoulder and dragged out unconscious and naked before she finally, blearily, opened her eyes. However, once she was awake and watching… she cried in joy. πŸ™‚
One of the things that impressed me was that they slept through my entire labour and weren’t bothered in the least by the horrific noises I was making once they were awake. And I was REALLY making some horrific noises. All that prep work we did watching videos of all types, talking about screaming and loud moans and groans really paid off and they were not bothered in the least by my complete inability to handle the end of labour.

6. “PEEKTURRRRRZZZZ!”

First of all, I have two teasers from the birth that my photographer gave me. I am FREAKING OUT to see the rest of them. I mean, no pressure, I realize I made her stay up all night long… but why aren’t they done yet?!

Curtis supporting me.

Moment of birth. The watch says 4:24:20 – so we were one minute off depending on which clock you go by.

Secondly: creepy, right?

She looks exactly like Jericho. In my labour and birth delirium, I thought she was Jericho and started screaming, “Is she alive?” over and over again.

From day one:
Wearing the first diaper Tempest and Xan wore.

My dad doing his Zephyra impression.

After I took it he joked that it should be his new profile picture on Facebook. I dared him to do it.
He did.

He started singing quietly to her and she immediately woke up and stared at him, quietly, for a good half hour while he made up lyrics to songs with her name in them. It was so amazing to watch.

Oh, and that ridiculously fucking cute monkey bunting and matching hat? LC’s handi-work.

By popular demand, I did a follow-up photo in the style of my belly pictures. This is me freshly postpartum, about 20 hours after birth. With the HG I only gained about 17lbs (I weighed myself for the first time two days before she was born), which means I’m almost at my pre-pregnancy weight two days later – and believe me, that’s not a good thing – I have to be super, super careful about my nutrition for the next few weeks because it’s too easy to gorge myself. My body has literally been starving for 10 straight months and is desperate to pack on some fat. I’ve also lost quite a bit of muscle, not that I had too much before, but I still plan on starting some gentle pilates once I’m a few weeks into recovery to help my body get back into a condition that’s actually usable.

I said I wouldn’t update it again, but I figured I should add a postpartum picture to make it truly complete:

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  • briannablade says:

    My god, she’s beautiful. I love all the pictures. Amazing and beautiful!! Especially the post partum one. There’s something so poetic in it.

    Also congrats and congrats and congrats!!!!!!!

  • mami_chilena says:

    That last photo of you holding Zephyra just pours magic and love. I WANT A NEWBORN NOW!

    PS: Jericho’s hand GREW!

  • twirlgrrl says:

    I am so thrilled for you. I love every single picture. She did look exactly like Jericho when she was born. And I love her name. I almost named my daughter Zephyr, but ended up going with Zoelle. She’ll be one year old this Wednesday. πŸ™‚

    CONGRATULATIONS!

  • sequiro says:

    Thanks for the update! The pictures of gorgeous and I LOVED hearing about her with your dad. Glad to hear you can EAT again!!

  • Anonymous says:

    Fast births are not all they are cracked up to be, are they? They can be hard on moms, and babies too. My daughter took a few days to come into herself after our 2 hour birth experience. I was expecting it to be fast, (my son’s was very fast too for a first baby) so I wasn’t so shocked to have a baby so quickly. But I do remember being shocked during labor that I was already pushing. Afterward I did the laying in thing for 10 days and I found that to be pretty helpful for me in making everything last a little longer since the birth went by so fast.

    It might be cool to keep taking the postpartum photos until your tummy flattens down again – but it’s very cool as it is too.

    You have a beautiful baby, congratulations!

    • admin says:

      TOTALLY. Man. Fast births are intense. Xan’s was 3 hours, so it was fast but it was much easier. This was 1.5-2hrs active labour and it was like a freight truck drove through my body from my chest down.

      • Anonymous says:

        Ha, I know! There is a point where you just accept that no coping technique can even touch what is happening to your body and then you just hang on for the ride while your body responds on it’s own. It’s funny how people wish for fast labors. If they really understood how hard it is to cope with them I don’t think they would want one.

  • eliza261 says:

    I know it has already been said, but you are incredible.. thank-you for sharing your experiences… Congrats on being able to eat good delicious food again! I hope that Curtis cooks you all the delish things you have been craving…

  • itsyspy70 says:

    oh oh oh! <3

    2nd pic – your face clearly shows the “holy cow… I’m holding her already?!?”

    monkey bunting (OMG EARS ON THE HAT) is crazy freaking cute!

    last photo is so gorgeous it actually made me cry. i’m glad you finished out the progress photo compilation πŸ™‚

  • robynz says:

    Wow wow! I am super happy to see the post partum picture. I secretly really wanted to see what your tummy looked like after, but didn’t want to ask! It’s so lovely, I love the completed chart! πŸ™‚

    Without any makeup, your face just screams TEMPEST!! I can’t wait to watch your newest storm grow up. πŸ™‚

  • niftybabe313 says:

    So glad you had such an awesome birth experience! Before, I thought she looked like Xan, but holy crap, with that pic of her and Jericho side-by-side, she could be his twin.
    Can’t wait to read more and see more adorable pictures πŸ™‚

  • chispita_666 says:

    Congratulations again! These photos are so beautiful. I love the one where she’s on your chest right after birth – the look on your face is amazing.

    I’m so happy you had the birth you wanted, and that the HG is finally gone.

    BTW, I was wondering if you could write / post photos of how to baby wear a newborn?

    • admin says:

      Thank you. πŸ™‚

      I probably could, though it may be a while. As I said she’s pretty fussy with the gassiness from her tongue tie latch and I’m finding myself without a lot of time other than spaces like right now, where she’s tightly swaddled and sleeping soundly only if I DO NOT TOUCH HER. πŸ˜‰

  • Hooray hooray hooray!

    I’ve been checking google reader way more often than usual because I’m a total creeper and I wanted to see your first post birth post. I’m so happy for you! She’s beautiful.

  • I can’t help but laugh at your dad’s Zephyra impersonation.;)

  • crustyshoes says:

    WOW you look good! That last picture of you and Zephyra is amazing. You look really happy.

    From the first picture you posted I thought she looked very much like Jericho, but seeing their pictures side by side..you can see it so much. Such beautiful babies!

    Love, love, love the monkey hat and cocoon.

    I’m glad your hyperemesis went away and you can now enjoy some yummy foods, with a gorgeous new baby in your arms. Congratulations to you and your family!

  • lolacat says:

    She’s incredibly sweet. And I rejoice for the end of your pregnancy!!

  • derryn_007 says:

    Wow, wow, wow… I love the pictures of you and Zephyra at the end of this post. You just look so fucking pleased! I’m actually getting a little teary. So great.

    The hat Elsie made – I know it’s supposed to be a monkey hat, but Zephyra looks like a little mouse in it. Excruciatingly cute!

  • I’m an icon crazy πŸ˜‰

    So I made these two for you as well. You totally don’t have to use them if you don’t want to! I was making other icons and I included these with them.

  • bluealoe says:

    I remember you saying “Adia” was one of your favorite songs back when we first met. πŸ™‚

    The first picture with you and Curtis is amazing. He’s so attentive, and you look so calm and trusting of the whole process. And HELL YEAH SECOND HOME WATERBIRTH VBAC!!!!!! You are fucking awesome.

    Nothing better than a proud grandpa with his new granddaughter. πŸ™‚ BTW, has Marika seen Zephyra yet?

    The last picture…you look so *proud*.

    *hugs* I love you.

    • admin says:

      Marika has amazingly come and gone already! She was here the first day and left the next morning. She came and went so fast I didn’t get any photos of her with baby, unfortunately… but she did get a lot of cuddle time.

  • tastyanagram says:

    Oh my God. The last picture is so beautiful that it actually made me tear up, and I haven’t been teary at all lately. That expression on your face! That is possibly my favorite photograph you’ve taken, ever.

    Zephyra is so beautiful and amazing, and so are you after killing that intense labor! I’m so, so, so, so glad your HG is gone. So glad. I’m sorry to hear that your fusions were giving you so much trouble. I hope that the Pilates works out for you, or that you find another workout which does.

    Can’t wait for more updates. I’m especially interested in what Tempest and Xan think!

  • noelove says:

    The picture of you holding her for the first time totally made me tear up. You look so shocked that she was actually there. So awesome.

  • azdesertrose says:

    Fabulous pics. She’s a beautiful baby, and you’re gorgeous too.

    Like a lot of people, I’ve started following you on Twitter. (@AZDesertRose76, just so you know who the hell it is.)

  • Beautiful, all of it. I’m so proud of you, and your postpartum pictures are gorgeous! You’re a birthing goddess!

  • mybonnykate says:

    Oh, that last picture! You look radiant.

  • melly4924 says:

    Congrats! Beautiful Pictures and what a beautiful little girl. The fact you were able to have two VBAC’s is inspiring to me. Best wishes to you and your family :]

  • waifstar says:

    congratulations!!! She is beautiful.

  • stapynam says:

    Totally awesome. All of it.

    I’m 32 weeks pregnant, getting ready for my first homebirth (2nd natural birth), and this is EXACTLY the kind of shit I need to be reading right now. πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

  • The photo of you in the pool, with Curtis supporting, is stunning. Beautiful.

    There’s also something very touching about the way she looks like Jericho…and his handprint has been right there holding her throughout the pregnancy. x

  • You and Curtis make beautiful babies. And OMFG, the monkey suit thingy!!!! A.Dor.Able!!!!

    That first picture of you and Curtis is really lovely. What awesome memories to have. You seriously make me wanna have a baby, ha ha! Well, if I ever do, I’ll aim to do it “Heather style,” πŸ˜‰

    Congrats again on your beautiful new baby! Can’t wait to see the pics and read the stories that will come in the future. I bet she will be just as colorul a character as Tempest and Xan!

  • Congratulations! Your birth photo is awesome– the joys of homebirth πŸ™‚
    Welcome to the world, Zephyra.

  • sgtmian says:

    weee! i don’t know, i’m just happy. at first i thought she looked like tempest’s twin, but now i don’t know. i do see jericho, but i think mostly i see curtis. she’s so cute! she has gorgeous eyes, and they seem so alert. i love her name too, i knew i would.

    in short: she’s beautiful, heather. congratulations to all of you πŸ™‚

  • uneko says:

    Congratulations.. you are ALL beautiful!!

  • loverly says:

    The postpartum pictures are all kinds of amazing. Congratulations again <33

  • mammaopal says:

    I know postpartum women aren’t really supposed to look sexy, but I’m just gonna say it Heather, cause that’s what I do.

    HOT. DAMN.

    Seriously? You look UH-Mazing!!

    You are such a warrior!!

    That story about walking around the grocery store made me cry. I understand so much. I love that you had Curtis there, singing to you about cheese, because I GET IT. It’s euphoric to put those things in your mouth after HG. I had to fight back the urge to roll around in my food like it was a pile of money (cause, you know, I do that with all my millions).

    I am so amazed and proud of you Heather. You pulled this pregnancy off with grace and style. You are a true inspiration, and my heart is overflowing with love for you.

    (on another note, I saw a collapsable cane at the discount store yesterday for only $15. It was shiny metal with a really pretty handle (like, swirly, glowy purples?) and I thought about you and your Mom. Would you like a backup? Or do they need to be of a special hight or customization for you? Let me know, because I’d love to get it and send it to you if it will be helpful to either of you. )

    Love, love, love!!!!

    • admin says:

      THIS made me cry! Seriously Opal, I cannot cannot cannot thank you enough for your love and understanding through this experience. For real. It made such a difference to have a friend who had really gone through it (and then some. I know my experience was not at all as bad as yours were) and knew what it was like to feel so hopeless and sick and just… horrific. I was so depressed over it so many times and even though I stayed *pretty* positive, there were a LOT (a lot a lot) of times when I was just sitting around crying my eyes out over how awful it all was. Not just with the nausea, but with having to take handfuls of fucking pills every day just to support a pregnancy and feeling guilty over it. Meanwhile everyone else around me is la-de-dahing about how they’d never take a Tylenol and oh, I totally know what it’s like to feel queasy! Why can’t you just use Seabands? Teehee! You start to feel really alone in your misery.

      Both my midwife and I thank you for your support and your contribution/s to helping me survive HG.

      A few hours after giving birth Curtis was throwing his arms up and saying, “Now we can retire the vomit bowl! Want to take it out back and beat it? Let’s go all [ Office Space ] on it!!” and damn, do I ever want to.

      cane: that is an awesomely sweet offer, but I’m really good with the one I have. And my mom mostly uses her cart and walker now.

  • lindis says:

    Just beautiful! Both of you!

    And I am so happy you can eat again!

  • the_gersemi says:

    OMG! She’s beautiful! And you look amazing! Happy birthday, Zephyra!

    Man, those pictures with your dad are just stunningly beautiful. I’m actually crying tears of joy over here. :*)

  • OMG, the picture right at her birth… <3 And Tempest crying <3

    Oddly enough, I don’t see the likeness to Jericho at all in the comparison picture (all I see is Tempest!), but I CAN see it in the pictures with your dad.

    And then in the 2-days-old pic you posted on Twitter? All I can see is Xan. Weird. LOL

    Congratulations! <3 (on both the baby and eating! ;-)

  • Anonymous says:

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    Wow, what an incredible journey you all had. I really love the final photo of you and her. It’s just so natural and honest and really very touching. I’m looking forward to reading here as you get to know each other. It seems like she is an old soul. There are stories in those eyes already. Have the most blissful babymoon and enjoy all the wonderful post pregnancy food.

  • hopeless says:

    Congratulations! She is beautiful and so are you, I especially love the breastfeeding portraits.
    I teared up when I read about you thinking she was Jericho and may not have made it πŸ™

  • The postpartum pictures are exquisite. You look so happy, and Zephyra is beautiful.

  • Squeeeeee!!! You two are beautiful!! and the pictures of Zephyra and your Dad! Oh man, if the amazing birth goodness hadn’t already started the tears, those pictures would have done me in. <3 <3 <3

  • knottyrye says:

    love love love it all.
    but, i am officially creeped out.

    i ALSO only gained 17 lbs. WTF!

  • effervescent says:

    OMG CONGRATS!!!!!

    I somehow missed your June 2nd update. You are gorgeous and so is she, I can’t wait to see/hear more about her πŸ™‚ I am so happy for you.

  • gen_here says:

    Beautiful! Just beautiful!

    I’m so happy for you, Heather!

  • gngr says:

    I hope you whacked him when he came up with the Blackness. lol Big hugs, yay for no more HG! Enjoy food, be careful but enjoy it, my friend, you have more than earned it. Yay baby!

  • mussare says:

    so wonderful to read

    (sorry, more intelligence after have had some sleep)

  • delababy says:

    She is such a pretty pretty baby. Those eyes have stories in them.

  • keilababe says:

    Awwww. Total cuteness!!

  • fallingwthu says:

    Some encouragement with nursing a tongue tied baby. Some say it can’t be done. DO NOT LISTEN! I have a tongue tied baby, she was exclusively nursed for 7 whole months before we decided to introduce solids. Yes, it will take a lot of patients and practice, but it can be done.

    When I had my 3rd born the doctor said “oh neat she’s got a short tongue and suggested the football hold for the first few weeks until she got used to keeping latched on. it will get easier.

    I will not clip her tongue, she will have it and if she wants it clipped she will ask for it. Until then it stays.

    Her dad is also tongue tied, he never got his clipped and talks, eats fine.

    Anyways, congrats to you. I am so proud of you. Hehe, your photos make look so simple, yet I know 3rd and babies after that can go so fast so hard and you have zero time to prepare. Yay! You had a baby. I’m giddy with joy.

    I hope you rest and just enjoy that babymoon.

    • jenrose1 says:

      OTOH, I know a lot of midwives and lactation consultants who recommend clipping it as soon as possible, an extremely quick and surprisingly low trauma procedure which produces very fast results when latch isn’t working well.

      • admin says:

        Yep. Severity of tie + personal preference = as early as possible if you choose/have to do it. I’ve already left a message on the machine of a local doula who has a list of names/numbers of physicians who will do it. I want to get it looked at first and get a second opinion about the severity before I make the final decision, but I’m leaning toward having it clipped as she appears to have *no* frenulum at all and her tongue can barely lift up. She can’t even put her tongue past her gumline… let alone cover it. When she sucks it wiggles back and forth and can’t quite cover it, which equals a lot of nipple pain. Fortunately I have a shitton of milk so she’s not going to starve in the meantime, but normally this would result in her not getting enough stimulation to my breasts.

        • gen_here says:

          See, this is very interesting to me. I thought Molly (my 3 month old) might have tongue tie. But she was able to extend her tongue past her lips (I just read a list of tt myths yesterday – that she can extend past the lips doesn’t mean she *isn’t* tt’d – I didn’t know that). But she still does the clicking and this weird breathing out the side of her mouth while nursing thing, resulting in needing lots of burping. But my supply with her has been amazing – way better than with my older two kids. But *I* was tt’d (I don’t think my mom or anyone knew it until I was in elementary school and somehow TORE my frenulum – it hurt like a son of a bitch for about 12 hours and barely bled, but it felt a lot better after without my knowing it didn’t feel right before).

          Enough buts?

          So we have her first well baby visit with the family practitioner next week. Midwife had her for 6 weeks – and we got a foot of snow the day she was scheduled for her 2 month wbv – but thankfully this doctor is very wait and see, laid back and not ready to pounce on things like vitamin D or formula supplementation (even if she is extremely pro-vax… but she doesn’t dump non/delayed patients). I’m interested in her opinion. I’m training to be a LLLL, so I know the signs and all that. She seems to be defying all of them, but there’s something in the back of my mind that makes me still wonder.

          I’m interested in what your chosen consult has to say.

      • This. My son had a tongue-tie which was clipped when he was three days old (after I begged – he’d turned my nipples to mincemeat with a poor latch and I was on the verge of giving up).

        He didn’t even seem to notice they’d done it. I, on the other hand, couldn’t watch. They gave him to me to nurse as soon as they’d finished, and the difference was amazing. He knew what to do, he just couldn’t before.

      • fallingwthu says:

        I agree with this, and I asked my doctor about it too, I’ve taken in all the advice, all the information, I’ve talked to a dentist, and my doctor about this, and he agrees, if she really needs to do this then it will get done. BTW, her tongue does not extend past her bottom lip at all. I cannot see it while she nurses, and she continues to gain weight and has zero issues with eating and speech. Trust me, I will do it, if I notice her speech being impeded.

        • jenrose1 says:

          Oh, I’m not saying you need to, I just know that with this sort of thing, the clip procedure is nothing to be worried about if it’s necessary.

          My kid is on the opposite end of the spectrum. Her tongue is set abnormally in her mouth, she has NO frenulum that I can see, ever, and while she can stick her tongue out, it’s so much work that she almost never does it, and with her neurological issues, she can’t both stick her tongue out and make speech sounds, so there are a whole range of consonants that are just out of her range. This is one of the few kids I’ve ever seen who had a harder time saying “Daddy” than “Grandma”, she resorted to calling my husband by his first name, instead.

          She can say “milk” perfectly, it’s all in the lips or at the back of the throat, but can’t say “bottle” or “baby”.

          • jenrose1 says:

            To be clear, she’s not tongue tied at all, her tongue barely looks like it’s connected to the bottom of her mouth at all. She can stick it out, she just…doesn’t. But she had no suck to speak of when she was born, so tongue position was kind of irrelevant.

    • admin says:

      Tongue tie clipping is not just a matter of preference, it also depends on the severity of the tie. Many can be overcome with simple exercise, but some cannot. Those that are quite severe can impede gum and tooth development, speech, and so on. My mother’s, for instance, wasn’t clipped until she was two and by that point she required speech therapy and dental work to correct the problems caused by it.

      Mine was workable.

      Tempest’s was workable.

      So it’s really more than just a simple, “don’t do it no matter what”.

      • Anonymous says:

        I’m super interested in the tt issue and hope you will have a chance to blog further about your investigations to assist her latch. I’m now confident that my inability to persevere through horrific nipple damage past three months was due to a tongue tie problem, which was dx by our midwife at birth, and clipped at 3 days, with no improvement. I think he must have posterior or lateral ties or something else, but it’s a small city with only one doctor that would even do the sublingual frenulum clip. -Widget

        • admin says:

          That’s terrible that you had such a rough time. πŸ™ Good for you for trying so hard for so long, though. Not many would keep it up, even for a limited time, because it really is HARD work. So seriously, good for you.

          We’re starting with some exercises: sticking our tongues out at her to make her do it back to us (stretching), using my finger in her mouth to push her tongue down to help her know how to use it during a latch, etc… we also use assisted latches like football hold and side lying. I’m pumping “off the top” to ensure my breasts can be squashed for the breast sandwich technique so I can get as much tissue in her mouth as possible (and yet she still clicks LOUDLY because she absolutely cannot get my breast far enough back in her mouth). I’m definitely quite sore, and one nipple has blistered multiple times, but we’re managing.

          • Anonymous says:

            Thanks! I had to feed my babe colostrum and milk from a spoon, and a finger tube. The midwives let me use bottles after three weeks… I’m doing some PTSD counseling currently to deal with the trauma from our bf experiences. So I wish you all the best with persevering through the worst of it (cause its only going to get better!) and hope that reading your experiences will help with my healing journey. W

            • admin says:

              Oh my god, that must have been so hard. πŸ™

              As an update, it seems she has a type 3 or 4 posterior tie, which appears to be quite significant (not totally sure yet). We’re getting an appointment with a doctor who specializes in it, and from there depending on how bad it is we may get a referral for surgery *if* needed. I don’t want to have to go that far, BUT if it’s that significant it poses a pretty big blockade to normal tooth, mouth and speech development (not to mention her ability to eat not just now, but later in life) in which case dealing with it ASAP is the best way to go. Hoping that’s not the case, obviously… as I don’t want her to get surgery.

  • danica says:

    Fantastic!! So happy for you, she’s gorgeous!! Omg I thought you were tempest in the last pic, you look so alike!

  • jenrose1 says:

    OH, and I think you and Pink had your babies on the same day… trufax!

  • jenrose1 says:

    Wow. Just… wow.

    You fucking rock.

    I so needed to read this today.

  • facethemoon says:

    I’m almost done my version of the birth story. Again, not very long, but it’s been sitting open for two days now and I haven’t had the chance to finish.

    Loooove that last one of you guys, and obvs my fav is the one of Gramps.

    Also, IDENTICAL to Jericho. When you held her up to the screen the other day next to his picture, it’s just…. uncanny.

    Love you. xo

  • jeca777 says:

    You look TOTALLY high on birth in those past photos. I love it!

    I also love the photo of your raw shock of her after she was born. AMAZING!

    I’m jessicablizzard on twitter and you said she was turning her head all around in the birth canal – screwing her way out just like we talked about! πŸ™‚

    Are you planning on posting the video or keeping it for your own privacy?

    Thank you for posting, I’ve been watching for it! Congratulations. She seems like such a wise little soul. πŸ™‚ And seriously – one of the most beautiful babies I have EVER seen!

    • admin says:

      The vid was taken from a shelf, so it isnt graphic (you don’t actually see her come out, not really anyway). It’s just LOUD. I’m planning on sharing it, I just need to trim it to the highlights.

  • OMFG OMFG OMFG SQUEEEE!!!!!

    The pictures of your dad and her. I’m sitting here SOBBING my brains out. And the picture of you with her right after she was born. THE LOOK ON YOUR FACE. Now I’m even more hysterical. It’s that amazing “Oh my god! I made you and you came out of me and you’re so gorgeous!” post birth euphoric look. That should totally be your new default icon. You are so amazingly gorgeous.

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